Hello Everyone,
Just a quick post to give you the names of brushes used in the webinar. As explained, at the time of the webinar, I had not finalized the new brush set called Desert Oasis. I went through the video and identified the brushes used and matched them to Desert Oasis.
Cool Spring > Very Wet 06…Available in Cool Spring
Very Wet 06A – did not make the cut. It is identical to the above brush, except for the dab. With pause diffusion set, you can use any real watercolor variant to smooth the lines of Cool Spring > Very Wet 06
Dry Stroke 28 – Desert Oasis > Wet Bristle
Dry Stoke 18 – Desert Oasis > Expressive Bristle
Dry Stroke 6 – I used and then deleted what I used. Dry Stroke 6 didn’t make the cut.
Runny fill 02-3 – Desert Oasis > Desert Tsunami
Runny Fill 02-2 – Desert Oasis > Fata Morgana
Dry Stroke 23 > Desert Oasis > Wet Bristle This is a cross over for several variants.
Wet into Wet 3 pickup – Desert Oasis > Quick Sand
Any other brushes used are available in other sets.
I’ll come back and do more videos about the brushes, but I just wanted to get the cross over list available now.
Skip
Skip, this was an outstanding presentation! Your creativity with the use and development of these brushes have inspired me…thank you for your time and energy. The art community is privileged to have you contribute your talent.
Princess Banana,
So good to hear from you. Thank you for your nice words.
Talk soon,
Skip
Skip,
I can’t seem to find the .zip file for the brushes.
Hi Ken,
No zip file is needed if you are using Painter 12.1. If you have Painter 12, then upgrade to Painter 12.1…it’s free and a big improvement. If you have an earlier version of Painter, these brushes are not backward compatible. These brushes are using new technology in Painter 12.1.
I do have a video on Brush Management in Painter 12.1 in an earlier post…you may want to look at that.
Hope this helps,
Skip
Hi Skip,
Unfortunately for me, version 12.1 does not work on my computer. It crashes the program every time. Corel is aware of the problem, since I described my computer (dual quad Xeon) to them and alas/alack, I have to run 12.0 with the hotfix only to be productive.
Thanks
Hi Ken,
OK…you can do this. The Desert Oasis.brushcategory is a package or a zip file with a different extension. Right click on the file and select rename. Leave the name the same and change the .brushcategory to .zip. Now you have the zip file with the brush category and companion jpeg. You can unzip the file and place the category and companion jpeg in the library of your choice. Let me know if this works for you. So sorry about the problem with the computer and Painter. Painter 12.1 is really terrific. Skip
Mr. Allen,
You are so clever. Worked Immediately.
Thanks again.
Ken
Hey Ken…that’s great…glad it worked for you. And call me Skip…everyone does even though I am as old as the hills. 🙂
Enjoy,
Skip
Skip,
You may think that you are as old as the hills, but surely you are not as old as dabs!
Candace
My first chuckle of the day. Thank you Candace. I’m smiling big time.
Hi Skip, Desert Oasis is a fantastic set of brushes. I have to confess, however, that I meticulously converted each one to “cover method” yesterday in order to use them with my usual workflow. Thank you ever so much. Winifred
Yack! Argggg! My babies…you killed my babies. I hope it was quick and painless! Oh…I see…you brought them back to life as coverlets. That was nice. OK…silliness over…how do they work that way. It would be interesting to see how the dabs work…actully, I’m thinking variants like expressive bristle might be very nice. Keep me posted… Skip
LOL!!!! I am just seeing your reply today. Some post and replies come into my email – some not. I love these brushes as “coverlets”. They are excellent. They as so very expressive and they have an established place in my key brushes. I do understand how you feel – killing them and all, but they have a wonderful new home in their afterlife. I appreciate them for all they are to me. W
Hey Winifred,
A student, John, has been using the brushes with drip method. They are great with drip…even though I hate drip method. Try it out.
Thank you skip. Drip is not yet a concept to me. I will test the method to see what it does. You see, we support your babies in growing up and being ALL that they can be! W
wow super Skip, thank you so much
cheers Ellen
You are very welcome, Ellen. Have fun. Skip
Hi Skip
In was wondering if you made a video of you webinar, if so is there a place that I can see it?
Hi GC,
Corel recorded the video and it is up on their site. You can find the link in my post previous to this one. If you can’t find it holler…and I’ll send the link.
Skip
Hi Skip,
Just want to let you know the Desert Oasis Brushes made in P12.1 are not backwards compatible with 12.0 with HF. The same error occurs for each brush “Error in “[brush]” line 186 column 1: unknown sub-element name
Cheers
Ken
Hi Ken, Try this. Open the brush and when the error in line 186 occurs…keep clicking ok until the message goes away. Click on the reset button to make sure it is at its default setting. Now go to Brushes > Save Variant and save the variant without making any changes. You will be asked if you want to overwrite the variant…and you do. I believe after you do this and close painter and re-open, you will not get the error message anymore. I’m not positive, so just do one brush and test. If it works, then you can fix the rest of them. I’m not sure it is an issue with 12 and 12.1…I have known that this error pops up from time to time with others as well. Let me know if it works, Skip
Hi Skip,
When I attempt to restore the default variant for any of the brushes, I get the same error message ““Error in “[brush]” line 186 column 1: unknown sub-element name”
Thanks again,
Ken
Hi Ken,
I understand you will get the message and you need to go through the four incidents of the message. I was asking you to restore to be sure that the brushes were back to their default. After you do that, then go to Brushes > Save Variant. Don’t change anything in the window that pops up…just click ok. You will get a message asking if you want to replace the variant and you answer yes. After you have saved each variant, close Painter and re-open. I am pretty sure you will not have the error message then. This doesn’t happen on all computers and I don’t know what causes it, but the solution outlined usually fixes the problem.
Skip
Skip,
You were absolutely spot-on about what to do. All of the brushes work as you said they would.
Thanks Again,
Ken
Yipppeeee! I was getting worried. I am so glad the fix worked.
Have fun,
Skip
I’m quite new to Painter, and new to painting in general.
I really appreciate all the time, energy, and expertise that has gone into your videos, webinars, brushes, etc… That really helps to show what is possible with the tool and helps ease the creative process. There are so many knobs to fiddle with. Thank you!
I had 2 questions about Painter (not sure if this is the right forum):
1) Why do I see color shifts using very wet regular watercolor brushes that flow for a while and get very transparent? For example, getting a reddish hue from what was a pure blue color brush, or getting a dark grayish leftovers.
2) Is there a way to get a true watercolor edge for wet paint on completely dry paper? These edges have darker, more saturated colors that build up on the edge of the paint where it stops and lingers on dry paper. At the edge with the raw paper, the transition is quite sharp. Although there are edge brushes in real watercolor, they are more diffused and blurry.
thanks,
Rick
Hi Rick,
Thanks for stopping by.
I’m always willing to try to answer questions, so feel free to ask. You can also ask questions at Painter Factory, Corel’s Painter Forum.
1. I’m not sure about the color shifts. Can you give me the specific brush that you are using and the paper selection. Also it is helpful to know the version of Painter, are you on a MAC or PC, and what OS you are using. I can try to repeat the problem. Right now I don’t think I am getting a color shift, but it may be that I don’t understand what you mean.
2. I think it is possible to get the watercolor hard edge look. In the next group of videos, I will demonstrate the technique. Stay tuned.
Thanks again for stopping by,
Skip
Hi skip.
I look forward to item 2.
As for item 1, I’m not sure if it’s my perception or a real color shift, but I can use the eye dropper after all diffusion is done, and see the outer ring color location change as I move around the various areas of paint. So, I think that means the hue is changing. The shift happens more as the paint diffuses away from the tip location and gets more transparent.
I see a shift with blue, or green, but I did not see it with yellow.
With blue, I can see a color band near the outside area.
With green, I did not see a band, and the color shift is towards the blue as the paint is more transparent.
I see the color shift on a Mac OS 10.6.8, Painter 12.1 (I also see it with Painter 7)
I can also see it on a PC, Win7, Painter 12 eval
This is with the original watercolor brush category (not real watercolor).
One setup is:
watery soft bristle brush in watercolor brushes (or soft runny wash)
blue color, for example
paper set to fully white brightness
wetness: 1000
pickup: 25%
dry rate: 0
evap thres: 0
diffuse amount: 75%
cap factor: 0
grain soak in: 60%
accurate diffusion
wind force: 0
Also the tendency of these runny brushes to create small areas of gray desaturated color from reacting with the paper texture, was seen a bit in your cardinal clone video when doing the background.
Have others seen this also?
thanks,
– Rick
This is what I wrote at first…have fun reading it, but don’t read carefully. 🙂
Hi Rick,
I can reproduce what you are seeing, but I had to look very close…old eyes here. The variation I saw, I liked…go figure. I do have some watery brushes that do not break like that. Try Desert Oasis > Quick Sand. There are a couple of things that are different between my brush and yours that I think make a difference and allow the color separation.
1. Dry Rate. I have found that zero dry rate never dries…or at least it takes way longer than I want to wait. Anyway…I don’t know code, but getting the paint to disperse continually, might cause that problem. Try adding a little dry rate…it will not affect the brush too much.
2. Grain Soak in. Your brush has 60 % and mine had none. I do use grain soak in and like the results, except sometimes it gives me an off color or that gray that you noticed in the cardinal videos. I think grain soak in is responsible…not sure, but a guess. The soak in also “seems” to reduce granulation and make the flow smoother…nothing to back this up…just a feeling. So if I want smoother I will accept the gray. BTW…this isn’t true for all variants.
3. Pick Up. I do use high pick up some of the time, but too much makes a mess…at least in watercolor…not so much in real watercolor variants. Most of the time I do not go over 7% with the norm being around 3%. Those metallic looking balls that develop with your brush and burst to a runny white areas are developed by the high pick up of the white of the paper. I would imaging it adds to the break up of color.
IF you like the brush, I would keep it and not worry about the color…at least I would not because it is not significant for me…that is not to say it isn’t significant or a valid point…it is. Just not high on my priority.
OK…re-read your note and tried the dropper tool. Yep…definite color shift. I haven’t the faintest idea the cause or what to do about it.
You might post your question at Painter Factory.
Wow…that felt good to just say…I don’t have a clue…LOL.
Skip